I think I shall have to read it all over again. But you will not want it to end! May 21, What a great discussion! And Kiana, you don't have to convince us! Chicks did Cutting for Stone as a group read last July. The old discussions can still be accessed.
Sad to say I didn't get to it at that time and read it this winter, but it is indeed a beautiful book. People do offten pull up archived chats and revive them! There's some definite fans here! I will have agree with Elizabeth, characterizations matter more to me than plot. And agree with Viola and Tera's comments - the idea that good story is not necessarily good writing.
I think sometimes we equate story with an engrossing, twisted or action packed plot, when story can be the deep nuances of a character and what got them there. Viola - totally agree that something that touches me emotionally doesn't necessarily mean quality composition.
From a mechanics standpoint certainly good writing involves well structured grammar, creative use of vocabulary and languarge, effective imagery. Althought I prefer something not so detailed, but writing that leads my imagination to its own place.
I think I have grown as a reader because I have finally stopped confining myself to books that are only in my life experience, with characters I would like or relate to. Some of my richest reading in the last few years have been characters I didn't necessarily like and couldn't relate to, but the glimpse into their souls has expanded my understanding of humanity. Tera - I had to chuckle - great examples examples of Lolita and Twilight. I'm with you there. I just joined Goodreads few months ago, so am behind the times.
And you're right, we have to be open-minded and cross genres in our reading. Also, ditto on characterization being more important than plot. Anyone can makeup a plot. But to go deep into someone's motives and character is an art.
Its a techno-horror book and chilling. Gorgeous, a little gem of a book, and a love-story too! Of course Kiana - no apologies necessary! Welcome and make yourself at home! Goodreads is such a great place and once you've navigated around and gotten to know people you will discover how very much is here and how many great functions this website has!
My something English major daughter and I have read them all and seen the movies! We won't be total book snobs! LOL One of those silly guilty pleasures. And read The Elegance of the Hedgehog as well. I enjoy the what-have-you-finished and what-are-you-reading type threads so much, aside from just lurking through people's bookshelves and the compare function. I get some great great ideas! May 23, Funny thing, one person's pornography is another person's art ie, statue of justice covered by John Ashcroft in There are books people have loved, that I hated I think Tera hit the nail on the head , and vice versa.
I also know that a lot of people HATE the Harry Potter books, but I find them a good work of Juvenile fiction the grammar and word selection being appropriate, for this audience , and is enjoyed by people of all ages.
So I must add, one must also look into which audience the book was written for, a book in a mystery section that had no loops or twists, is probably not a great work of that genre. Steven King is more well known for the fast paced horror novels. Though quite simplistic in its sentence structure, his novels have become characteristic for their entrainment, pace, and plot. In my opinion, the "simple" structure helps to keep the pace fast and for the reader not to get caught along the way with difficulties of vocabulary or overly complicated grammatical structures I have not as yet read the Twilight books, but I also note their audience was for the mid teen girls.
Something must have been a bit successful for them to have become popular Jul 01, I actually feel a rush of blood in my head when I'm reading a book and I come across a description or turn of phrase or realize this writer is GOOD. Sometimes I feel a click like hitch in my lungs. It's not entirely education by a good literature teacher.
I physically have my bell rung by good writing. Jul 06, I like writers who can make me feel like I'm in the setting, so definitely those that can master imagery.
I also like the complexity of words and sentence structuring. I don't like simple writing, I want to feel challenged. Jul 07, This is a great topic. I think good writing is writing that disappears so you're fully engaged with the characters and the story. Times, Sunday Times His writing career took a while to get going. Times, Sunday Times This probably accounts for the somewhat distant and pedestrian tone of the early writings on work. Rowbotham, Sheila The Past is Before Us - feminism in action since the s His voluminous writings on the subject for a time enjoyed huge popularity.
The Times Literary Supplement The menace was reserved for the writing on the wall. Times, Sunday Times Reading your writing aloud will also help you to identify any weak spots.
The Sun Writing and oral reading effects have been positive as well. The Sun For him it was just about writing and producing stuff from home. The Sun Writing lists may help you remember things better. The Sun His writing career blossomed in parallel to his acting. Times, Sunday Times He still works full time writing and broadcasting and has no plans to retire. Times, Sunday Times Critical writing about the subject was also rare. Times, Sunday Times She saw the writing on the wall.
Times, Sunday Times And my reading and writing was delayed because of my profound deafness. Times, Sunday Times In many cases the actual quantity of apple appears but only in tiny writing on the side of the carton.
Times, Sunday Times My writing style is pretty unique. The Sun It was founded in as a vehicle for humorous writing as much as for drawings. Times, Sunday Times It stayed with me and made me think - a sign of brilliant writing. The Sun You can unleash your creative nature with music, art and writing apps. Times, Sunday Times That said , it is amusing at times and the chatty writing style will appeal to many. Some abugidas, such as Ethiopic and Cree , are learned by children as syllabaries, and so are often called "syllabics".
However, unlike true syllabaries, there is not an independent glyph for each syllable. Sometimes the term "alphabet" is restricted to systems with separate letters for consonants and vowels, such as the Latin alphabet , although abugidas and abjads may also be accepted as alphabets.
Because of this use, Greek is often considered to be the first alphabet. A featural script notates the building blocks of the phonemes that make up a language. For instance, all sounds pronounced with the lips "labial" sounds may have some element in common.
In the Latin alphabet, this is accidentally the case with the letters "b" and "p"; however, labial "m" is completely dissimilar, and the similar-looking "q" and "d" are not labial.
In Korean hangul , however, all four labial consonants are based on the same basic element, but in practice, Korean is learned by children as an ordinary alphabet, and the featural elements tend to pass unnoticed. Another featural script is SignWriting , the most popular writing system for many sign languages , where the shapes and movements of the hands and face are represented iconically.
Featural scripts are also common in fictional or invented systems, such as J. Historians draw a sharp distinction between prehistory and history, with history defined by the advent of writing.
The cave paintings and petroglyphs of prehistoric peoples can be considered precursors of writing, but they are not considered true writing because they did not represent language directly. Writing systems develop and change based on the needs of the people who use them. Sometimes the shape, orientation, and meaning of individual signs changes over time.
By tracing the development of a script, it is possible to learn about the needs of the people who used the script as well as how the script changed over time. The many tools and writing materials used throughout history include stone tablets , clay tablets , bamboo slats, papyrus , wax tablets , vellum , parchment , paper , copperplate , styluses , quills , ink brushes , pencils , pens , and many styles of lithography. The Incas used knotted cords known as quipu or khipu for keeping records.
The typewriter and various forms of word processors have subsequently become widespread writing tools, and various studies have compared the ways in which writers have framed the experience of writing with such tools as compared with the pen or pencil.
By definition, the modern practice of history begins with written records. Evidence of human culture without writing is the realm of prehistory. While neolithic writing is a current research topic, conventional history assumes that the writing process first evolved from economic necessity in the ancient Near East.
Writing most likely began as a consequence of political expansion in ancient cultures, which needed reliable means for transmitting information, maintaining financial accounts, keeping historical records, and similar activities.
Around the 4th millennium BC, the complexity of trade and administration outgrew the power of memory, and writing became a more dependable method of recording and presenting transactions in a permanent form. Archaeologist Denise Schmandt-Besserat determined the link between previously uncategorized clay "tokens", the oldest of which have been found in the Zagros region of Iran, and the first known writing, Mesopotamian cuneiform. Later they began placing these tokens inside large, hollow clay containers bulla, or globular envelopes which were then sealed.
The quantity of tokens in each container came to be expressed by impressing, on the container's surface, one picture for each instance of the token inside. They next dispensed with the tokens, relying solely on symbols for the tokens, drawn on clay surfaces. To avoid making a picture for each instance of the same object for example: In this way the Sumerians added "a system for enumerating objects to their incipient system of symbols".
The original Mesopotamian writing system believed to be the world's oldest was derived around BC from this method of keeping accounts. By the end of the 4th millennium BC,  the Mesopotamians were using a triangular-shaped stylus pressed into soft clay to record numbers.
This system was gradually augmented with using a sharp stylus to indicate what was being counted by means of pictographs. Round-stylus and sharp-stylus writing was gradually replaced by writing using a wedge-shaped stylus hence the term cuneiform , at first only for logograms , but by the 29th century BC also for phonetic elements.
Around BC, cuneiform began to represent syllables of spoken Sumerian. About that time, Mesopotamian cuneiform became a general purpose writing system for logograms, syllables, and numbers. Scripts similar in appearance to this writing system include those for Ugaritic and Old Persian. The last cuneiform scripts in Akkadian discovered thus far date from the 1st century AD.
Over the centuries, three distinct Elamite scripts developed. Proto-Elamite is the oldest known writing system from Iran. In use only for a brief time c. The Proto-Elamite script is thought to have developed from early cuneiform proto-cuneiform. The Proto-Elamite script consists of more than 1, signs and is thought to be partly logographic. Linear Elamite is a writing system attested in a few monumental inscriptions in Iran.
It was used for a very brief period during the last quarter of the 3rd millennium BC. It is often claimed that Linear Elamite is a syllabic writing system derived from Proto-Elamite, although this cannot be proven since Linear-Elamite has not been deciphered. Several scholars have attempted to decipher the script, most notably Walther Hinz and Piero Meriggi.
The Elamite cuneiform script was used from about to BC, and was adapted from the Akkadian cuneiform. The Elamite cuneiform script consisted of about symbols, far fewer than most other cuneiform scripts. Linear B , the writing system of the Mycenaean Greeks ,  has been deciphered while Linear A has yet to be deciphered.
The sequence and the geographical spread of the three overlapping, but distinct writing systems can be summarized as follows: The earliest surviving examples of writing in China—inscriptions on so-called " oracle bones ", tortoise plastrons and ox scapulae used for divination—date from around BC in the late Shang dynasty.
A small number of bronze inscriptions from the same period have also survived. In , archaeologists reported discoveries of isolated tortoise-shell carvings dating back to the 7th millennium BC, but whether or not these symbols are related to the characters of the later oracle-bone script is disputed. The earliest known hieroglyphic inscriptions are the Narmer Palette , dating to c. The hieroglyphic script was logographic with phonetic adjuncts that included an effective alphabet.
Writing was very important in maintaining the Egyptian empire, and literacy was concentrated among an educated elite of scribes. Only people from certain backgrounds were allowed to train to become scribes, in the service of temple, pharaonic, and military authorities.
To begin to understand what makes writing, and writers, “good,” we need to ask the larger question “What is writing?” It’s easy to agree on the definition of writing if we limit it to something like “putting pen to paper” or “typing ideas into a computer.”.
Looking for Quality in Student Writing Learning to See the Things Kids Can Do So We Can What is Good Writing? You know it when you see it. It isn’t that hard to tell whether a piece of writing is good or bad. You just have to read it. But things get more challenging if you have to explain why it's good.
Definitions of Good Writing. When non-native students come to study in the U.S., they encounter not only different expectations for them as academic writers but also very different attitudes about the role of writing as an important vehicle for learning and explaining what one has learned. Jul 20, · What "good" writing or a "good" story entails is different for Everyone, including those who read the same book or novel. What one likes another may not & vice versa and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, makes for great discussions!
Experiences in school leave some people with the impression that good writing simply means writing that contains no bad mistakes—that is, no errors of grammar, punctuation, or spelling. In fact, good writing is much more than just correct writing. It's writing that responds to the interests and needs of our readers. Any definition of good writing won’t hold water for a second if it’s based on the writer’s own opinion. One could say, “good writing is writing which contains so-and-so”, and then a reader with different likes / dislikes will say: “What?